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The
following interview was conducted as part of Mr. Maguires visit
to Madison, Wisconsin in fall 2001. The interview appeared in issue No.
3, 2001, of the Friends of the CCBC Newsletter. The CBCC
is the Cooperative Childrens Book Center at the School of Education,
University of Wisconsin-Madison.
An
Interview with Gregory Maguire
By Geri Ceci Cupery
Gregory Maguire
is an author of distinguished works for both children and adults, who
published his first novel when he was 24. His writing has been honored
by the National Council of Teachers of English and the American Library
Association, and featured in CCBC Choices and other publications.
He taught at the Simmons College Center for the Study of Childrens
Literature for eight years, and in 1986 became a founding member of Childrens
Literature New England (CLNE). He and his family live in Massachusetts.
GCC: Over
the years youve proven to be a very versatile author, having written
young adult novels, middle readers, picture books, and adult fantasy.
Have you found any particular challenges, or special joys, in writing
for your various readers? Is any one level your favorite?
GM: I have
often likened the process of writing to trying to pick up a radio signal
on a poor receiver. Most often the signal is weak (often it blanks out
entirely); writing then involves making sense of what you can hear and
know, and filling in the blanks. Sometimes (and this can be called inspiration,
too) the signal is strong and insistent, and then the words come as swiftly
and cleanly as if one was taking dictation. It is an easier job to take
dictation than to try to worry out the connections between scratchy and
unintelligible ideas and phrases. It is lofty and exciting and, frankly,
easier. However, one cant rely on inspiration. While I havent
found that adult books are easier to write than childrens books,
I have found that short stories, poetry, and picture books are harder.
All that weeding, winnowing, word-whacking. (I tend to indulge in narrative
sprawl, I suppose, so I consider myself a novelist first and foremost,
and that is what I most enjoy doing.)
GCC: Youve
said that you didnt realize your first book, with its 12-year-old
protagonist, was for young adults, until you went back to it after a year
and re-read it. Do you now, as a seasoned writer, tend to write with a
specific audience in mind?
GM: Increasingly,
I feel confident about the age level of the children for whom I write.
However, if I am feeling susceptible to giddiness or sentimentality, to
both of which I am prone, I write for the approval of the three people
whose names are taped to the top of my computer: SAINT JUDE, E. M. FORSTER,
and MOMMY. Saint Jude, because he is the patron saint of lost causes,
which fiction in development so often seems to be; Forster, because his
combination of wit and moral sobriety is an inspiration and a goal; and
Mommy because, well, you know.
GCC: Have
characters or story ever taken you in unexpected directions that ultimately
changed a books audience?
GM: I dont
believe so. When I was writing Wicked, about the Wicked Witch of
the West from The Wizard of Oz, I knew from the start that the
book would have to include two of the things that prepubescent children
have no interest in: sex and politics. Since the idea of the book (a fictional
exploration of the nature of evil) came before the subject (The Wicked
Witch of the West in Oz: A life story), I knew that the book would engage
in philosophical enquiry. I doubted that a decisive conclusion could be
drawn about the nature of evil and, indeed, the book mirrors that early
assumption.
GCC: Your
fourth book, The Dream Stealer, was very well received by critics,
one of whom said you had found your voice. Years later you remarked that
youre still proud of that book, which sadly is no longer in print.
With your current success, is there any chance it will be published again?
GM: Happily,
The Dream Stealer is going to be reissued in the next year or two
by Clarion Books. Looking back at the novel some eighteen years later,
I realize that the book was the first iteration of my efforts to tell,
in novelistic form, some story already known. The retellings and reinterpretations
Ive done follow in the heels of people like John Gardner, T. H.
White, Marion Zimmer Bradley, Jean Rhys....
GCC: Are there
other books you would particularly like to see back in print?
GM: Im
very fond of I Feel Like the Morning Star, which is a science fiction
novel and a proposed first-of-a-trilogy. The second book was finished
but never published, and the third one unwritten since the second one
went unpublished. I wouldnt mind seeing all three of them in print
some day.
GCC: Seven
Spiders Spinning started off your humorous grade school series, The
Hamlet Chronicles, set in the small town of Hamlet, Vermont. The series
is still going strong with its fourth installment, Four Stupid Cupids.
Do you have plans for Three, Two, One, and beyond?
GM: Ive
made titles of The Hamlet Chronicles a count-down series. They are:
Seven Spiders Spinning, Six Haunted Hairdos, Five Alien Elves, Four Stupid
Cupids, and the new one, due out next spring, Three Rotten Eggs.
Soon I hope to begin work on A Couple of April Fools. As to the
final title, Im not sure yet. Any suggestions?
GCC: You captured
a new audience of adult readers with your highly successful fantasy, Wicked:
The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West, followed up by
Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister, a variation on the Cinderella story.
Your new book, Lost, is due out this October. What can you tell
us about it? Does it, too, add a new twist to an old story, or does it
mark a departure from this approach?
GM: Lost
is not a retelling, but it does have a literary relationship to Charles
Dickens A Christmas Carol. It posits that there was a gentleman
in North London in the early nineteenth century who was haunted by an
unknown spectre. This gentleman told of his trials and travails to the
young and impressionable Charles Dickens who, at age 12, spent six months
or so in the same village in North London. The gentleman has a descendent
four generations on named Winifred Rudge. Lost is the story of
what happens to Winnie when she goes to spend time in the house in North
London that had once belonged to her great-great-great-grandfather.
GCC: Of your
two adult novels, Wicked is being developed for both a mini-series
and a Broadway musical, and Stepsister has already been made into
an ABC/Disney special. Were you satisfied with Stepsisters
translation from page to screen?
GM: Confessions
of an Ugly Stepsister will be aired this fall; as of this writing,
I dont know the date. I have seen the finished product on video
and I'm impressed. The director, Gavin Millar, is well known for the arthouse
gem "Dreamchild," about the aged Alice Liddell going back to Oxford and
revisiting the scenes of her childhood, when Lewis Carroll invented Alice
in Wonderland to charm her... The director shot Confessions
with an eye trained by looking at Vermeers and Hals and other genre painters.
Stockard Channing plays the stepmother (less wickedly than in the book)
and brilliant performances are turned in by Azura Skye and Emma Poole
as the unfortunate (and hardly ugly) stepsisters of the glorious Clara
van den Meer.
GCC: Would
you like to see any of your childrens books developed for another
medium?
GM: I had
long hoped The Dream Stealer might interest the Disney studios
or Dreamworks SKG, but to date nothing has solidified.... The Hamlet Chronicles
have had some offers, too, but I have yet to accept one.
GCC: Youve
noted that fantasy was your first love as a young reader. Much of your
own writing belongs to this genre, and Ive found your reviews of
other fantasy writers articulate and enlightening. What have you enjoyed
reading lately (fantasy or otherwise)?
GM: I read
furiously and rashly across genres. However I tend to REMEMBER the novels
better. I am reading The Assault by Harry Mulisch and treasuring
it, reading it more and more slowly to make it last. Of late I have read
(in galleys) Senseless by Stona Fitch and Just Like Beauty
by Lisa Lerner, both dystopian novels to be published this year and early
next, respectively. Among the works I've read in the last five years that
I already look forward to revisiting I count Morality Play by Barry
Unsworth, Human Voices by Penelope Fitzgerald, and all the Mennym
books by Sylvia Waugh (Im way behind on them). Little of the above
is genuine fantasy, I notice.... Since my children are young now, I am
learning all over again the grace and pleasure of short stories, both
the nursery tales of Goldilocks and Jack and the Beanstalk, as well as
original simple tales like those printed in Ten Small Tales by
Celia Barker Lottridge.
GCC: Since
your essay appeared in Something About the Author Autobiography Series,
you have filled the child-sized hole in your life two
times over! Has becoming a parent changed your perspective as a writer?
Will we be seeing more picture book titles from you, in addition to books
for older readers?
GM: I continue
to think the idea for a picture book must come in a single instant
like the idea for a poem (at least as I write them). A picture book is
so precarious the art and text, the movement and hesitation in
it must balance as precisely as the pendants of a Calder mobile
that I havent the talent to fuss and finish a piece. It either must
appear to me all at once, pre-balanced and ready, as it were, or I could
muck about with it for a decade and it still would be shapeless and useless.
Whether inspiration can strike in the wee hours when bottles are being
refilled well, to date, Id guess no. But nightly as I stroll
to the fridge, I consider....
Read more about
Gregory Maguire:
Gregory
Maguire and The
Author Speaks: Writing The Good Liar. The OBrien
Press Ltd.: Dublin, Ireland.
Gregory
Maguire. Emerson Umbrella Center for the Arts: Concord, Massachusetts.
Maguire, Gregory.
Gregory Maguire, 1954 - Something About the Author Autobiography
Series, volume 22. Gale, 1996, pp. 141-167.
Maguire, Gregory.
Something About the Author, volume 84. Gale, 1996, pp. 154-159.
Paton Walsh, Jill. Maguire, Gregory.
Twentieth-Century Childrens Writers, 3rd edition, St. James
Press, 1989, pp. 626-627.
Pela, Robert L. Confessions
of an Ugly Stepsister. The Advocate (December 7, 1999), p.
96.
Contemporary Authors, volume 226, pp.
227-260.
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